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Post by Ki Kumori on Dec 14, 2009 0:47:35 GMT -5
This was my old different Dimension Deck.
I called it The Dark Dimension Fusion - The Beginning of The End. I also said with much pride that at its the strongest dark dimension fusion deck in terms of speed and power.
As I said this deck IS illegal by new standards, but I could still use a few thoughts on it.
1 - Armageddon Knight
2 - Armageddon Knight
3 - Armageddon Knight
4 - Cyber Jar
5 - Dark Armed Dragon
6 - Dark Armed Dragon
7 - Dark Grepher
8 - Dark Magician Of Chaos
9 - Jinzo
10 - Kuriboh
11 - Mad Reloader
12 - Mad Reloader
13 - Morphing Jar
14 - Prometheus, King of the Shadows
15 - Prometheus, King of the Shadows
16 - Sangan
17 - Witch of the Black Forest
18 - Allure of Darkness
19 - Allure of Darkness
20 - Allure of Darkness
21 - Card Destruction
22 - Change of Heart
23 - Dimension Fusion
24 - Graceful Charity
25 - Hand Destruction
26 - Hand Destruction
27 - Monster Reborn
28 - Painful Choice
29 - Pot of Greed
30 - Raigeki
31 - Soul Release
32 - The Beginning of the End
33 - The Beginning of the End
34 - Veil of Darkness
35 - Call Of The Haunted
36 - Hallowed Life Barrier
37 - Hallowed Life Barrier
38 - Imperial Order
39 - Mirror Force
40 - Return From the Differ
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Post by Masami Maeda on Dec 14, 2009 1:26:37 GMT -5
As I said this deck IS illegal by new standards, but I could still use a few thoughts on it. Yes, it is. My question is, when was it ever legal? Raigeki has been banned since April '04. Cyber Jar has been banned since April '06. Witch of the Dark Forest was banned since September '04. Allure of Darkness never even came out until the March '08 format (it was originally a TCG-exclusive). Call of the Haunted and Monster Reborn have been trading spots on the forbidden list since September '04. |
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Post by Ki Kumori on Dec 14, 2009 1:36:38 GMT -5
As I said this deck IS illegal by new standards, but I could still use a few thoughts on it. Yes, it is. My question is, when was it ever legal? Raigeki has been banned since April '04. Cyber Jar has been banned since April '06. Witch of the Dark Forest was banned since September '04. Allure of Darkness never even came out until the March '08 format (it was originally a TCG-exclusive). Call of the Haunted and Monster Reborn have been trading spots on the forbidden list since September '04. It is not so much that it has been legal by National Tournament standards, but I used to do small local tournaments in nyc. That used very old ban lists. The side deck, swaps the illegal cards out accordingly. I just don't have the Side Deck list on me at the moment. |
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Post by Masami Maeda on Dec 14, 2009 3:09:43 GMT -5
It is not so much that it has been legal by National Tournament standards, but I used to do small local tournaments in nyc. That used very old ban lists. The side deck, swaps the illegal cards out accordingly. I just don't have the Side Deck list on me at the moment. There are no "national tournament standards." The rules for Nationals don't differ from the rules of a Shonen Jump, regional tournament, or local. All Konami events (Pegasus League aside) use the Advanced Format, which means that you cannot use cards on the forbidden list anywhere in your main, side, or extra deck. Obviously, if you have a game of friends where they don't impose any restrictions, or a unsanctioned local event where the owner lets you run whatever you like, you can do whatever you want. You could run three Pot of Greeds and 3 Raigeki if you wanted. You could probably run 6 pot of greeds if you wanted. You could probably run a deck with 35 pots of greed and 5 exodia pieces if no one cares about legality or game mechanics.  As it stands, your deck is very hard to critique because, outside of the general strategy, everything revolves around cards that never (and shouldn't) see any play. Yes, Pot of Greed, Raigeki, and Graceful Charity are very good cards. But if you put those in pretty much any half-decent deck, the deck would become very good (e.g. very capable of randomly OTK'ing out of its ass), and there's little point in getting into an aesthetic comparison of "OTKness" since a win is a win. In short, yes, the deck is pretty good, but every deck that packs that number of banned cards is going to be pretty good. Make a deck that complies with the forbidden list, and it would be much easier to critique. |
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Post by Mizuki Haruka on Dec 14, 2009 7:46:17 GMT -5
Yet underneath the Traditional list, if I'm not mistaken it's legitimate, yeah? Not saying he's allowed to play it here but under a theoretical scenario.
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Post by Ki Kumori on Dec 14, 2009 7:49:21 GMT -5
Yet underneath the Traditional list, if I'm not mistaken it's legitimate, yeah? Not saying he's allowed to play it here but under a theoretical scenario. Yes I wouldn't think about playing it here. However yes, it is legitimate in traditional I believe unless the rules changed for that as well. |
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Post by Masami Maeda on Dec 14, 2009 18:37:49 GMT -5
Yet underneath the Traditional list, if I'm not mistaken it's legitimate, yeah? Not saying he's allowed to play it here but under a theoretical scenario. Sure, but Traditional format is one giant, messy pile of first and second turn OTK's that it doesn't really matter what you run. Just fill half of your deck with the most broken, banned cards in the game and the rest with tech cards of your choice. |
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Post by Ki Kumori on Dec 14, 2009 18:46:04 GMT -5
Yet underneath the Traditional list, if I'm not mistaken it's legitimate, yeah? Not saying he's allowed to play it here but under a theoretical scenario. Sure, but Traditional format is one giant, messy pile of first and second turn OTK's that it doesn't really matter what you run. Just fill half of your deck with the most broken, banned cards in the game and the rest with tech cards of your choice. Mm, your right I suppose. Alright then you can just delete this thread since there is no point in going further. |
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